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A conversation with Jose Luis Torres II

A conversation with Jose Luis Torres II

by Grégoire Canlorbe · Juil 11, 2025

Jose Luis Torres II is an American martial artist, actor, producer, and entrepreneur, holder of the 9th Dan in World Tang Soo Do and founder of NAFMA, promoting martial arts worldwide. Since 1982, he has taught Tang Soo Do at his karate school in New Jersey, which he has led for over twenty-five years. As an actor-producer, he is best known for his roles in the martial-arts thriller Killer Ex (2024), as well as in City of Honor and the upcoming Rise of the Dragon (2026).

  Grégoire Canlorbe: How do you move from kinesiology to martial arts—and, in turn, from martial arts to action movie?

  Jose Luis Torres II: I’ve practiced martial arts since I was five, competing and training throughout my childhood. Over the past forty years, martial arts have been my lifelong passion. When I went to Penn State University, I majored in kinesiology—the study of human movement—with the intention of becoming a chiropractor or physical therapist. 

  Despite my dedication to martial arts and kinesiology, I’d always harbored a dream of acting. In grade school and high school I performed in theater productions, and in college I even took two drama classes. Friends encouraged me to move to Los Angeles, but at the time I was focused on finishing my degree. Then life intervened: I married my college sweetheart, became a father, and built a career to support my family. 

  Over the next twenty-five years I stayed connected to the martial-arts world—making friends with its celebrities at seminars and expos. When the pandemic hit, I launched the Martial Arts Xperience podcast. With everyone stuck at home, I was able to book top martial artists for video interviews and quickly grew an audience of over 10,000 followers. Through the podcast I met my good friend William Christopher Ford (who played Dennis in The Karate Kid and reprised the role in Cobra Kai Season 6). He invited me onto his show 52 Masters and encouraged me to explore on-camera work. I submitted audition tapes and, though most went nowhere, one led to a role in Willie Johnson’s independent film 1 Out of 100. Filming in Maryland, I discovered how much I loved being on set. 

  Director Robert Parham saw potential in me and suggested we collaborate again. Later, at a fundraiser for the Martial Arts History Museum in Los Angeles, I pitched myself to indie filmmaker Jim Towns. I explained that modern action heroes don’t have to be bodybuilder–types but should feel real—like a “Puerto Rican Liam Neeson.” He agreed, sent me the script for Killer Ex, and cast me as a retired assassin drawn back into the field. The grassroots premiere in nearby Burlington, New Jersey, sold 514 tickets on opening night. 

  Now I’m developing my second project, City of Honor—a TV series whose pilot has been picked up by six streaming platforms. We’re currently finalizing investment to produce the entire first season. Martial arts taught me discipline; podcasting taught me persistence; and now, acting is teaching me that it’s never too late to chase a lifelong dream.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: How does your training in kinesiology shape your eye as a martial artist?

  Jose Luis Torres II: I’ve found that my background in kinesiology—understanding muscles, tendons, ranges of motion, and the fluid mechanics of movement—gives me, indeed, a sharper eye when performing. Some actors step in front of the camera and effortlessly look the part; I’m the kind who has to work for it. Knowing exactly how to execute a kick, open the hips, or coordinate a punch lets me elevate my martial-arts routines from mere imitation to authentic, camera-ready action. 

  By combining childhood passion with scientific insight, I’m not just an actor “trying” to fight—I’m a martial artist who knows instinctively how the body moves. That authenticity shows on screen: it doesn’t look like staged choreography, but real, dynamic combat. And while I’m still on my journey toward star-level roles, I’ve already seen audiences respond positively to that genuine fluidity and precision in my first projects—and it’s only the beginning.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: When it comes to the way bodies are being hurt and shaken, how do you assess the fight scene in David Cronenberg’s Eastern Promises?

  Jose Luis Torres II: I haven’t watched Eastern Promises in years, but its premise still grips me: a desperate race to rescue an infant from London’s Russian mafia underworld. You’re asking my take on the sauna fight scene featuring a naked Viggo Mortensen, right? I love how they shot it—raw, brutal, and unflinching. I don’t recall who was the stunt or fight coordinator, but the realism of that sequence is astounding. There are no 360° hook kicks or flashy flying sidekicks—instead you see instinctive, animalistic reactions, driven purely by emotion. Mortensen’s character fights with desperation and fury, using every instinct to save that girl.

  Contrast that with Bloodsport’s highly choreographed displays of Jean-Claude Van Damme’s incredible kicking ability. In Bloodsport, the spectacle and precision of each move serve the tournament’s honor-bound stakes. In Eastern Promises, however, the violence feels organic: every punch and grapple reveals Mortensen’s character’s fear and determination. It’s a perfect example of how a fighter’s motivation—honor versus survival—shapes the way they move on screen.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Your character in Killer Ex is a retired professional killer who built a family. How did you get in his shoes so convincingly?

  Jose Luis Torres II: It was actually my first time leading a film, so I didn’t shape the character as much as Jim Towns, our writer–director, did. Still, I found a lot to connect with. As a father of three boys myself, I understood the stakes of a dad doing whatever it takes to protect his family. And at nearly fifty, I knew what it felt like to move like I did in my twenties—stiffer, heavier, a little slower. Rather than hiding that, I leaned into it: my character in Killer Ex is past his prime, worn down by retirement and regret.

  That weariness brought authenticity to the fight scenes. Early on, you’ll see him take worse hits—he’s rusty, out of shape, fighting on instinct rather than precision. But as the story unfolds and his mission sharpens (his son’s life is on the line), he locks in. By the final battles, his technique and focus have returned, driven by pure determination. In Killer Ex, the fights aren’t just choreography; they’re emotional milestones charting his journey from reluctant retiree to fierce protector.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: The movie’s conclusion, which sees a dialog between Gerald Okamura and you precede a voiceover, is full of tension.

  Jose Luis Torres II: It was funny, because in the original edit—and the February screening—we didn’t have Victor’s voiceover at either the beginning or the end of the film. As a producer, I talked to Jim and said, “I really think we need to open and close the movie with Victor reflecting in voiceover.” I felt it was important—like putting a cover on the book, then the back of the book. Jim loved the idea, so we added it in post-production. 

  We’ll be doing the same thing for Killer Ex 2, which we start filming later this summer. Although we’ve already shot the restaurant scene where the family celebrates and comes together, the voiceover dialogue will be recorded afterward and woven in—way, way after the fact.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Killer Ex is built upon the duo that the male protagonist—your character—is forming with a femme fatale—Elena Churinova’s character. How did you get your complicity as co-actors?

  Jose Luis Torres II: So, Elena was cast—as I said, I didn’t have full control over Killer Ex’s casting. That was handled by our writer–director, Jim Towns. Jim had worked with Elena Churinova on another project and thought she’d be a great fit for this film, so he tapped her for the role.

  How was acting with her? It was really good. You know, I’ve heard horror stories and I’ve heard great stories—Elena is the latter. She’s a consummate professional and a genuinely wonderful person. To be honest, this was the first time I’d ever acted on screen opposite a leading lady. Elena had already done twenty or thirty films and loads of stunts, so she was completely at ease.

  We did Zoom reads and table reads together to build rapport. I was nervous—very insecure about how I’d look and sound on camera—but Elena’s warmth and encouragement put me right at ease. She’s a phenomenal actress and an even more phenomenal human being.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: One of the best fights in Killer Ex opposes Elena Churinova to Lawrence Walther. Please tell us about the filming and choreographing of this great confrontation, which violently ends in the toilet.

  Jose Luis Torres II: We shot that fight scene in a single day at a rented roadside motel, which presented tight walls, narrow corridors, and awkwardly placed dressers. Lawrence Walther handled his assassin role; he’s a stunt performer with whom I’ve since formed such a strong bond that I cast him as the police chief in my series City of Honor. Although I served as fight coordinator, we brought in Manny Ayala—who’s worked on blockbusters like The Amazing Spider-Man 2—to consult and fine-tune the choreography.

  A couple of days before shooting, Manny, Elena, and Lawrence rehearsed in my karate school using mats and mock-up dressers to nail the spacing and timing. Once we moved into the actual motel room, Manny’s expertise guided every punch, wall-bounce, and camera angle—Jim Towns shot it all handheld on a Blackmagic to capture that claustrophobic intensity. Manny also designed the dramatic glass break and the final, tongue-in-cheek moment when the toilet seat clocks the assassin, giving the scene a bit of comic relief at the end.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Just as epic, the fight opposing you to Mohammed “Michel” Qissi ends with you diving a knife into him. Please tell us about the backstage of this scene.

  Jose Luis Torres II: I was such a fanboy to work with Mohammed Qissi. I’d met him on social media, and we started forming a friendship—he even appeared on my podcast, where I shared my dreams and aspirations. Later, he flew in as a special guest at my tournament, and that’s when our bond really grew. When I told him about my movie, he didn’t hesitate to help. I was truly honored—everyone knows Qissi’s story with Jean-Claude Van Damme, so working alongside someone of his experience and talent was incredibly humbling.

  Despite my admiration, I refused to embarrass myself. With Elena I was nervous, but with Qissi I went all in: I tapped into my martial-arts confidence, discipline, and focus so I’d look good for both of us. And he matched that energy—he’s the ultimate professional.

  Originally, we planned to shoot his fight scene that summer, but a scheduling conflict meant he couldn’t fly in from Germany until months later from Morocco. When he finally arrived, we had to choreograph everything on the spot. He wanted a heavier boxing element; I wanted to showcase a spinning hook kick—his height made that move especially striking—and we had a blast building it together.

  During the stabbing scene, someone forgot to swap the metal blade for a rubber prop. Mohammed never broke character; he delivered full-force swings until the director finally called “cut.” When they realized the real weapon was still on set, I glanced at him, half panicked—but he just smiled and said, “When the director says action, it’s action. When he says cut, it’s cut.” I couldn’t stop laughing.

  That knife-dive effect was shot tight on a corner, cutting between a rubber knife thrust and a close-up of a machete prop with practical blood drips. For a small-budget film, the result drew great praise, and I’m proud of what we achieved with limited resources.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: You really had a blast working with Mohammed.

  Jose Luis Torres II: Working with Mohammed was a dream come true—and I can’t wait to collaborate with him again on future projects.

  Mohammed really opened doors for me—he introduced me to his contacts, including his cousin, Said Hamdaoui, who did an excellent job in his short scene in the club in The Last Kumite. Since then, I’ve been building those relationships and expanding my network.

  I think The Last Kumite had some of its own difficulties, but it was a great film that truly paid homage to that ’80s-style flick. Obviously we would have loved to see more fighting—a bigger throwback to the original Bloodsport—but they did a very, very good job. It’s so difficult to make movies with tight budgets, time pressures, and all the constraints involved, so I commend everyone who managed to pull it together. I’m really happy for them.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: The platonic, respectful relationship between Victor and Ayana is somewhat reminiscent of that between Ethan Hunt and Ilsa Faust in Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation.

  Jose Luis Torres II: Mission Impossible taking inspiration from Killer Ex’s ideas? Ha, I wish!

  Seriously, though, what really drives the film is the history between Elena’s character and Victor. They were once inseparable—a team on secret missions, jetting around the globe, and very much in love. But Victor longed for a home and a family, while Elena couldn’t imagine giving up the thrill of the field. That difference pulled them apart, yet their bond never truly broke.

  In the story, you see Victor risk everything—even his own family’s safety—to rescue her. And critically, we never crossed the cliché of him betraying his wife. We wanted to walk that fine line: showing Elena and Victor’s deep, lingering affection without slipping into adultery. It was essential to keep their connection honorable, honoring both their past passion and Victor’s commitment to his family.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Speaking of Mission Impossible, did you get to watch the just released, eighth installment?

  Jose Luis Torres II: I haven’t had a chance to see it yet—I’ve been completely tied up with filming, production, and marketing my current project, so it’s on my to-do list. I did, however, catch Michael B. Jordan’s film Sinners (the vampire movie), and I thought he did a fantastic job. It’s incredible what you can achieve with that kind of backing—and that’s exactly the level I’m working toward, so I can bring even more ambitious, magical moments to the screen.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Thank you for your time. Would you like to add a few words?

  Jose Luis Torres II: I’m juggling three major projects right now. We’ve just finished filming City of Honor, a six-episode crime drama in which I play Detective Sergeant Dante Perez of the West End Task Force. The pilot lands June 27 on Prime, Tubi, Uplift TV, Filmzie, Fawesome TV, and TVEI, with additional platforms still signing on. Financiers and production companies are already lining up to continue the series—seasons 2 and 3 synopses are complete, and all of season 1’s scripts are locked. It’s an emotional ensemble piece about a single dad battling grief, alcoholism, and rising city crime, and I believe its layered storytelling will resonate both here and abroad.

  This summer—August into September—I’ll be back in front of the camera for Killer Ex 2 with writer–director Jim Towns. We’re bringing back familiar faces and introducing two new villains: Silvio Simac (of Transporter and Unleashed) as Nikolai, and martial-arts legend Casanova Wong as a powerful Triad boss. Expect bigger characters, sharper choreography, and higher stakes as our hero faces a fresh wave of adversaries.   Looking further ahead, I’m developing Rise of the Dragon, a feature film set to begin shooting in late 2025/early 2026. It’s a passion project—a love letter to classic martial-arts cinema that will deliver authentic fight sequences, gritty atmosphere, and the spirit of ’70s and ’80s kung-fu epics. It’s been an amazing year of building new worlds and characters, and I can’t wait to share these stories with audiences everywhere.


That conversation was originally published on BulletProof Action, in July 2025

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A conversation with Alan Delabie, for Bulletproof Action

A conversation with Alan Delabie, for Bulletproof Action

by Grégoire Canlorbe · Oct 3, 2023

Alan Delabie is a French director, screenwriter, actor, producer, and martial artist. A black belt in karate shotokan, he is also trained in full contact and kickboxing and won the Nunchaku European Championship. In the movie field, he is notably known for the Borrowed Time trilogy, the last installment of which he co-directed with the man who mentored him in his cinematic adventure, David Worth.

  Delabie has won awards at several film festivals, including the Los Angeles Films Awards, the Los Angeles Actors Awards, as well as festivals in Istanbul, Tokyo and New York. He also received an award at the famous Gala Action Martial Arts Magazine in Atlantic City. In 2023, he played the role of a vampire in The Last Nosferatu, for which he received the award for best actor. Still the same year, he played Alex Lapierre in thriller Shepherd Code.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Please tell us about The Last Nosferatu.

  Alan Delabie: I fell in love at a very young age with two movie genres: action, and horror. One of my challenges has been of directing a werewolf movie, so I wrote a werewolf screenplay. I ended up turning to a vampire movie’s project as it was too hard to find the money for a werewolf movie: at least, one that can compare favorably with Stuart Walker’s Werewolf of London and John Landis’s An American Werewolf in London.

  The Last Nosferatu tells a story that has nothing to do with that in Murnau’s movie; but the Nosferatu is not some unique character, it is a type of vampire instead. There is no action in The Last Nosferatu, which is all about horror with a special emphasis put on characters development and makeup. I wanted the process of my character’s transitioning from human to vampire to be as convincing as possible, both psychologically and in terms of physical changes.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: How do you assess Klaus Kinski’s vampire in Werner Herzog’s Nosferatu?

  Alan Delabie: Klaus Kinski, quite a personality—truly a madman, just as much a great actor! I love his work, as well as that of his daughter, Nastassja Kinski, the panther in Paul Schrader’s Cat People. Werner Herzog’s Nosferatu and Klaus Kinski’s vampire portrayal in the latter are certainly great. I nonetheless prefer the original Nosferatu movie, which Friedrich Wilhelm Murnau’s directing—and Max Schreck’s acting and makeup—make an unsurpassable classic. The fact it is silent, and black and white, only increases the mystery and horror…

  Grégoire Canlorbe: What is your assessment of contemporary horror movies?

  Alan Delabie: Today many of those horror movies with spectacular visuals just forget that they should have a good screenplay. Conversely many independent horror movies have a creativeness and crafty screenplay that are counterbalancing their lack of technical, financial means. That classic that is A Nightmare on Elm Street, which frightened me while I was a child, was already made with a budget only of $1.1 million (what remains relatively low, even in the 1980s). Yet it could rely on Wes Craven’s brilliant writing and directing, not to speak of Robert Englund’s legendary interpretation. A blockbuster remake of Nosferatu, as dazzling as its CGI would be, could barely hold a candle to the 1922 movie, no more than the remake of A Nightmare on Elm Street can compare with the original Freddy movie.

  Over the course of one of my stays in Los Angeles, I was surprised to notice how the house that “acted” as that of Heather Langenkamp’s character, Nancy Thompson, and the house that “acted” as that of Johnny Depp’s character, Glen Lantz, are really standing in front of each other.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: It seems turning a Hollywood dream into a reality is what the “borrowed time” of your life path is being spent notably.

  Alan Delabie: Living the Hollywood dream was a childhood dream, which I would never give up. I had already performed many stage demonstrations on French and Belgian television, and acted in TV movies and series like À tort ou à raison [Rightly or Wrongly], when Jalal Merhi offered me that I be part of his TV program Master of the Arts (aka Road to Hollywood). I would later write and film, and act in, my first feature, Eight Hours, a psychological thriller that would end up being projected in San Diego. Then I would start acting in a number of short movies and web series in America, and have the idea of the Borrowed Time web series. The unexpected fruit of that idea would be a movie trilogy.

  You know, it is an illusion to think that you gonna become a Hollywood actor just because you proved your worth as a martial artist. A martial artist who wants to be an actor, but who is no good actor, just a good martial artist, can hardly impress Hollywood and get a role in some major production. By contrast a good, charismatic actor, if he is no martial artist, can still end up in a Marvel production in which he will have doubles carrying out all (or some of) the stunts and fights.

  Assuredly a good way of challenging, proving my actor abilities was through venturing into the horror genre as I did with The Last Nosferatu, Meosha Bean’s MVB Films Halloween Horror Stories Vol II, or even with Chris Power’s Bloodslinger, a Canadian feature that is nicely interweaving horror and western.

The Last Nosferatu – makeup, and practical effects

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Two cases of a filmic intertwining between horror and action that come to my mind: George Romero’s Land of the Dead, and Lucio Fulci’s Zombi 2 with its iconic shootout in the hospital…

  Alan Delabie: I am an admirer of George Romero’s work, which The Walking Dead and its slowly walking zombies, who cannot get killed unless they’re shot in the head, have been massively inspired by. My favorite movies by Romero are Night of the Living Dead, and Dawn of the Dead. Land of the Dead is a good installment in Romero’s Dead series though.

  You do well to mention that unofficial sequel to Night of the Living Dead that is Lucio Fulci’s Zombi 2, as Fulci is one of those brazen masters of horror who’ve left their imprint on my filmic sensibility. The scene of the hospital shootout, or that of the eye, or that of the shark, they highlight how Fulci was willing to push the limits of what can be shown onscreen. Joe D’Amato—just think of his Anthropophagus—is another of those cheeky pioneers who were afraid of nothing.

  You must know that Catriona MacColl, who extensively collaborated with Lucio Fulci, acts as Franck Denard’s mother in Borrowed Time. She is my spiritual mother in the movie field actually. We did a short movie together, Mourir d’Aimer [Dying of Loving].

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Speaking of Franck Denard, how did you have the idea of that character? Is he a projection of you in some other timeline?

  Alan Delabie: No, Franck Denard is completely opposite of me. While I was in San Diego on a rainy, gloomy day, I decided to spend time writing and then came up with the idea of a short web series about a man who, while leaving prison and suffering from a brain tumor, establishes himself as a vigilante.

  After I made a few capsules, and a friend of mine in Los Angeles, Meosha Bean, discovered those, she suggested to me that the idea should be developed into a feature. Anatomy of an Antihero: Redemption (aka Borrowed Time), with she standing as a director and me as a writer, would be launched shortly after. Although the end of Borrowed Time implied a collapsing Franck Denard, shedding tears of blood and refusing to continue to take his medications, was about to die on the beach, a producer would express interest in launching a sequel. I proposed that we work instead on a prequel dealing with Denard’s stay in prison and what happens between his release and those ulterior events related in Borrowed Time. The producer agreed, and I started writing Denard: Anatomy of an Antihero (aka Borrowed Time 2), which I would direct as well.

  It was too hard to get the authorization to film in a jail, so the prequel, which I first planned to contain a large segment—half of the plot—set in a prison environment, would end up with only a few custodial scenes, all in the form of flashbacks. The success the second installment would meet on streaming platforms would arouse the launch of Borrowed Time 3: Falling Apart, which I would co-direct with David Worth. When working on Anatomy of an Antihero: Redemption, I could hardly imagine there would be any additional installment; but I now believe a trilogy is what Borrowed Time had always been destined to be.

Eric Roberts, Alan Delabie, and Merrick McCartha

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Two climactic moments in the saga are respectively your fight with Abdelkrim Qissi, and the training montage featuring you alongside Mohammed Qissi.

  Alan Delabie: Yes, and you can discern some inspiration from Abdel’s fight at the end of Lionheart. I somewhat regret that Abdel and I didn’t find time to rehearse our choreography as thoroughly as we should have. David, who was kind enough to check the editing of the training montage, gave me some helpful advice.

  Besides Abdelkrim and Mohammed, the Borrowed Time have assuredly allowed me to collaborate with a variety of other great actors: to name but a few, Eric Roberts, Costas Mandylor, Louis Mandylor, Patrick Kilpatrick, Matthias Hues, or Bob Wall, legendary opponent of Bruce Lee.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Did those contracts you made with producers ask you to cede the copyright on Borrowed Time?

  Alan Delabie: No, I could keep the copyright.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: How both of you came to codirect Borrowed Time 3: Falling Apart is a high moment in that adventure that has been your mentorship by David Worth.

  Alan Delabie: It’s been more than thirteen years since I’ve been in touch with David. I had the audacity to reach him, and to introduce him to the early tentative steps of my work in the movie field. Since then, indeed, he has been mentoring me, and following and assessing my modest achievements.

  The first time I would meet David physically would be in 2013 in Los Angeles. At the time, he was teaching in San Francisco and doing several rounds trips between L.A. and San Francisco. When meeting we felt a time would come when we would do some movies together. A few years later, I would write Borrowed Time 3 and then submit the screenplay to David, who would see some potential in it. That is when I asked him whether he would agree to take charge of the L.A. part, while I would personally take care of the Europe part. David accepted my offer, and we would have much pleasure working together on the movie. After the filming was complete, David let me know that, whenever I would have a new project situated in L.A., he would be there to help me.

  David has been checking my work since even before he codirected Borrowed Time 3. You can easily imagine how stressed I am whenever the man who directed Kickboxer and made the photo for two Clint Eastwood classics is judging my way of filming, editing, and acting. His criticism is always constructive though.

  Here are two things he taught me, which I would like to convey in turn. Firstly: no matter how you edit it, if that footage you’re working on is bad, you cannot fix it. Secondly: it’s better for that footage you’re working on to have a good sound and average picture quality than have an average sound quality and good picture quality. Sound is really what gonna allow you to stand out.

David Worth (on the right), and Alan Delabie

  Grégoire Canlorbe: You used to be compared to Jean-Claude Van Damme.

  Alan Delabie: I indeed used to be compared to him, and to personally find inspiration in him. I am just being myself today. Jean-Claude’s charisma is unique, and unsurpassable. He has a warrior face that is cute, angelic at the same time. Whenever he acts as a dark character, he doesn’t shine really. JCVD is clearly at his best when he acts as a light-hearted, combative character, one who may go through sadness and anger, but in all circumstances remains cheerful and gentle and never stops fighting. It is something David Worth could capture beautifully.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: A contemporary horror movie that was made from a modest budget is Damien Leone’s Terrifier. The latter and its sequel, Terrifier 2, were respectively made from $35 000 and $250 000. Both movies are great, and have been successful financially and in terms of buzz. Do you believe an independent action movie can be as fortunate nowadays?

  Alan Delabie: Two remarkably well chosen examples. Damien Leone has managed to create a clown character who is truly terrifying and catchy, and who rivals with Stephen King’s It. I prefer the first Terrifier installment, which I find to be more effective and original.

  Yes, an independent action movie can be just as “fortunate,” both “financially and in terms of buzz,” but it is harder. You must know that, nowadays, an independent action movie with a budget exceeding $300 000 is never gonna be able to recoup its costs most likely. It is something I learnt through Don “The Dragon” Wilson, who is accustomed to acting in action movies with a budget situated between $300 000 and $500 000. The reason is situated at the marketing level. An independent action movie just cannot compete with all those action blockbusters that can put dozens of millions of dollars into their communication and advertising.

  True, your movie may still create a buzz with a modest marketing budget (or even no marketing budget at all), but a buzz is something way easier to arouse with a horror independent movie than it is with an action independent movie. Winnie-the-Pooh: Blood and Honey had a fun, original concept that caused a sensation. Anyway all independent movies, when it comes to breaking even, face a same problem at the level of distribution. Given the public at large is increasingly relinquishing both the movie theaters and physical supports, it is increasingly unlikely for an independent movie to be offered a release other than just on a streaming platform. Yet that type of release is less rentable.

Don « The Dragon » Wilson and Alan Delabie

  Grégoire Canlorbe: You’re acting as a French professional killer, Alex Lapierre, in Shepherd Code. It seems you’re inscribing yourself in the lineage of Alain Delon in Jean-Pierre Melville’s Le Samouraï…

  Alan Delabie: Alain Delon with his stern face and cold, stoic interpretation was perfect as Jeff Costello. I would love to meet him someday. To me, he is a lion, so are Jean-Paul Belmondo, Lino Ventura, Jean Gabin, and Michel Constantin. Alex Lapierre is a role that would fit Van Damme better than Delon though.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: How was the Shepherd Code project born? What is its spirit?

  Alan Delabie: At first, while there were three of us to be willing to invest into a new movie project, I wanted to direct a sequel to The Last Nosferatu. I planned my character to be chased by an equivalent of Van Helsing, whom I wanted to be played by Silvio Lumac. As my makeup artist wasn’t available at the time, I turned to another synopsis of mine, one about a hired killer who wants to make his last mission before retiring.

  I developed a screenplay from that synopsis, and then had the project launched with Don Wilson cast as the backer of my character’s last mission and David Worth attached to the project as an assistant producer. I also cast Silvio Lumac as a rival assassin, whose relationship with Alex Lapierre is similar to that Antonio Banderas’s character is having with Sylvester Stallone’s character in Richard Donner’s Assassins. I codirected Shepherd Code with Lh Chambat, who had edited The Last Nosferatu. We shot in L.A., Bristol, Lisbon, and Paris.

  Shepherd Code isn’t only about suspense and action. The introspection Lapierre finds himself proceeding with as he is carrying out what is supposed to be his last mission, the way he becomes aware of the source of his troubles, it is something I also wanted to stand at the core of Shepherd Code.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Are there a few scenes of Shepherd Code you would like to tease?

  Alan Delabie: Yes, one in the desert with a white car whose trunk is being opened. Another one I would like to tease features two characters—the one played by Michael Morris and mine—shooting at the same time. Both scenes clearly have a Tarantino vibe. There is still another scene I would like to tease, which features David Worth doing a cool cameo.

Michael Morris, and Alan Delabie – Shepherd Code extract

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Both Shepherd Code and Borrowed Time 3 had parts shot in Los Angeles. L.A. is reportedly a good place for filming, with great urban landscape for action.

  Alan Delabie: Honestly L.A. is a nightmare for movies. You cannot shoot there without any license. If you start filming in the street without any delivered authorization, you soon end up getting stopped by the police and finding yourself with a fine. We were lucky that we could rent locations for the filming in L.A.; but, frankly, the urban landscape isn’t especially nice there.

  Most of those scenes featuring a shootout in the streets of L.A. are actually filmed in a studio nowadays. That is because insecurity and violence are now reigning in L.A., and you can be easily mugged or have your equipment stolen whenever you’re filming there. It happened on Shepherd Code’s set. Our boom operator had his boom mic stolen just in front of us, but we could get it back fortunately. It is no wonder that many companies delocalized their filmings from L.A. to Atlanta. Anyway we could capture some strong visuals in L.A., especially that scene on a building’s roof. What we shot in the desert is just as impressive.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Does the way Paris was shot in John Wick 4 resonate with you?

  Alan Delabie: I like the three previous John Wick movies very much, but that fourth installment left me somewhat disappointed. It is as if the magic, including in the Paris segment, had vanished. It was nice to see Scott Adkins being offered an original role (in the Berlin segment) though. To me, his best movies are Undisputed II: Last Man Standing (aka Boyka) and its sequels, as well as Avengement and The Debt Collector and its sequel.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Do you believe the sound, visual quality is something you can achieve even with modest technical means?

  Alan Delabie: A few months ago I was with David Worth, who had just bought a new iPhone. We did some videos tests with his iPhone, and we witnessed how it could shoot in 6K not less than in slow mention. With two iPhones (at least, that model or one comparable), two tripods, and a lavalier microphone, you’re perfectly in a position to shoot something that is quite good in terms of sound and visuals. David suggested to me that I watch Tangerine, a feature that was shot entirely with three iPhones. I must say the movie isn’t bad at all.

  I positively react to the fact that, in a sense, it is now increasingly easier to get the technical means to make one’s movie, and even to have one’s work released. If you cannot have your film rendered available on a streaming platform, you can still post it on YouTube, which remains a way of getting your work known. But beware: if you want to make a (good) movie, you must be able to proceed with a team job and, accordingly, to delegate some tasks and to respect, listen your colleagues. Also, you must be ready to be held to account whenever you’re getting your funds through a crowdfunding or some directly reached investor or sponsor.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: How do you feel about The Last Kumite?

  Alan Delabie: Quite a cool project. I am somewhat disappointed that Émilien De Falco wasn’t part of the adventure, as he would have been perfect as a lead character. It obviously remains a great cast with people like Matthias Hues, Billy Blanks, Kurt McKinney, Cynthia Rothrock, and both Qissi brothers. I heard there was a fight between Billy and Matthias, which I obviously look forward to discovering. I collaborated with Animal King, a capoeira master who fights in The Last Kumite. I must say he is very talented.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: You’re regularly involved with the score of your movies. Would you be ready to collaborate with Goblin band, who composed the soundtrack of many Dario Argento and other Italian horror classics?

  Alan Delabie: I love Goblin’s work. To me, they reached their summit with the soundtrack of Luigi Cozzi’s Contamination. Yes, I would be ready to collaborate with them, as well as with Fabio Frizzi, the composer on Zombi 2 and many other Lucio Fulci classics.

  Grégoire Canlorbe: Thank you for your time. Is there something you would like to add?

  Alan Delabie: It was quite sympathetic. I may be the conductor whenever I am alone to direct a movie; but I would be nothing without my collaborators. I may do my best to deliver a good movie; but my work could hardly shine if it weren’t for the talent of each of my actors, and that of each of my technicians. That’s why I attach special importance to bringing to light my collaborators and their credits, and to carrying out an authentic team job in a spirit of gratefulness.


That conversation was initially published on Bulletproof Action, on 3 October 2023

Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: Alain Delon, Alan Delabie, Borrowed Time, Borrowed Time 3, Catriona MacColl, Damien Leone, David Worth, Don "The Dragon" Wilson, George Romero, Goblin, Grégoire Canlorbe, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Klaus Kinski, Los Angeles, Lucio Fulci, Luigi Cozzi, Meosha Bean, Scott Adkins, Shepherd Code, Terrifier, The Last Kumite

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